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|Subject: ANSWER FROM MMV October 5th 2016, 6:14 pm|| |
i don't know how i can stop people edit my work, some lazy people don't understand the meaning of respect, i tried a lot of time to change their points of view but seem is imposible.
this guys only want to destroy others works and is very very dissapointing, i only ask you to not edit my superman in zod, but you dont care and finally release him.http://mugenmultiverse.fanbb.net/t8759p15-justice-league#106941
with this i dont know, i think is better to stop releasing chars.
and CONGRATULATIONS you have ZOD.
i don't want to be part of this group, remove my project and any other affiliation with this site.
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|Subject: Re: ANSWER FROM MMV October 5th 2016, 7:40 pm|| |
- @logansam wrote:
- i don't know how i can stop people edit my work, some lazy people don't understand the meaning of respect, i tried a lot of time to change their points of view but seem is imposible.
It is impossible. When you put a character out on the internet, everybody has the freedom to do whatever they want with them. It's just something you have to deal with, and if you can't do so, then you probably shouldn't be releasing chars.
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|Subject: Re: ANSWER FROM MMV October 5th 2016, 7:41 pm|| |
you will destroy your brain bro i think its not a edit its just a pallete with the name change well i think you should said to the new people I DONT WANT ANY PALLETES OR EDIT FROM MY WORK PLEASE RESPECT you complein here you complein in ccast i think you should be more patience with the new people they dont now your specific rules from your work they dont now but in my personal opinion there is not a edit its just a pallete with the name change in the select def ey relax
and please new guys dont touch the logansam work he dont want palletes or edits from his work
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|Subject: Re: ANSWER FROM MMV October 5th 2016, 7:45 pm|| |
Oye Logansam ...
MMV no es responsable por el post de "bolt crank" ...
Ni siquiera "bolt crank" debe ser responsable de la edición ...
Supongo que es un novato que simplemente descargó los chars de la WEB sin tomar en cuenta la legitimidad de ellos ... cosa que no me parece malo para un novato ...
Todos los miembros frecuentes de MMV sabemos tu postura, pero no todos nuestros miembros saben quién es Logansam, Zvitor, Loganir, etc, ni sus idiologías ...
Personalmente no he descargado su compilación porque suponía que yo tenía todos los chars, el screenpack es el que Wolviesam hizo para nuestro proyecto [JLM de Jhonny-DC] ... y era muy pesado para descargar con mi internet ... XD
Espero puedas considerar mi mensaje, y si tienes otras cuestiones puedes postearlas, respetuosamente claro. O mejor aún, puedes hablar por PM.
Te respeto a ti y a tu trabajo, pero entiende que será muy difícil que se respete por todo el mundo ... no porque la gente sea mala, sino porque es ignorante [en el buen sentido], o sea, no leerá ni se preguntará acerca de los deseos del creador.
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|Subject: Re: ANSWER FROM MMV October 5th 2016, 7:59 pm|| |
You can't get worked up every time something like this happens. It's happened to almost every creator in this community. Do you know how many edits of Arkady's characters I see? You don't see him making a crazy announcement every time he sees one. Look I said it before and I'll say it again, I'm sorry about the whole Winter Soldier thing but I think this is a bit of an overreaction.
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|Subject: Re: ANSWER FROM MMV October 5th 2016, 10:37 pm|| |
My advice Logansam is to continue on because if you put this through your head it will only lead you to nothing. We both know those guys might not be aware of MUGEN Rules. They might edit some of our works but one thing will never changes the original is always the best and the original creator will always be remembered for creating it.
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|Subject: Re: ANSWER FROM MMV October 6th 2016, 1:44 am|| |
It is not correct. It is a fan project, what have been made not as a part of official MMV projects. It is only another palette for Superman. There are few people, who work on true Zod.
Logansam, tha man, who make this game? The MMV team member? No. Why do you blame MMV again? You are not tired to say bad things about our site? As I noticed, all links are deleted, but you don't care. Even after that you will continue to talk bad.
I don't know what the hell I did wrong, but as part of this "group" I heard only "I don't want to be with you"... damn, why everything is so difficult?
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|Subject: Re: ANSWER FROM MMV October 6th 2016, 6:54 am|| |
Siccome sono il responsabile della pubblicazione di questo post (almeno da quel che ho capito) ho deciso di rispondere
lascio le mie parole nella mia lingua madre (l'italiano) e aggiungo solamente la traduzione di Google Translator in modo tale che possa essere chiaro cosa intendessi davvero a chi può tradurre.
Non capisco bene quale sia il problema, giuro, non per cattiveria,
seguo da molto tempo il vostro forum, ed è un riferimento costante per i lavori sull'universo Marvel.
Come ho scritto nel post che è stato bloccato ed i cui link son stati rimossi
IO NON SONO L'AUTORE DEI PERSONAGGI,
IO NON SONO L'AUTORE DEGLI SFONDI,
IO NON SONO L'AUTORE DELLO SCREENPACK
volevo solo assemblare un gioco con alcune caratteristiche,
ho raccattato personaggi e stage per il web, dove liberamente scaricabili, oltre tutto l'occorrente (musica e screenpack) ed ho messo insieme una collezione di personaggi DC.
Il recolour di Zod mi pareva addirittura di averlo visto qui su MMV, ma non ricordo nessuno scandalo all'epoca.
Ogni personaggio/parte di quel gioco appartiene al legettimo autore,
io condivido tale lavoro (lasciando intatti i riferimenti a ciascuno di questi , dove presenti)
per porre l'attenzione su un piccolo lavoro (progetto) da fare assieme per assemblare in modo più efficace un gioco di soli personaggi DC.
Non sono in grado, e non ho tempo realizzare personaggi/stage e quant'altro, ma
ho voluto spendere un pò di tempo per realizzare qualcosa (secondo le mie forze, conoscenze e capacità) con quel che ho trovato.
Più volte ho ripetuto che non mi arrogavo nessun diritto se non quello del tempo perso per selezionare ed aggiustare qualche impostazione di tale collezione.
Mi spiace che la susciettibilità degli autori sia così elevata,
già su InfinityMugen mi avevano preso in giro (nonostante avessi chiarito i miei intenti fin da subito), qui su MMV sembrava di vedere un pò di comprensione in più, evidentemente mi sbagliavo.
Non sento di aver leso nessuno, ne di aver rubato alcunchè del lavoro altrui, per cui non sento di dover delle scuse, voglio comunque dire che mi dispiace per il fraintendimento ed il "disturbo" provocato.
ENGLISH - by google translator
Because they are responsible for the publication of this post (at least from what I understand) I decided to respond
I let my words in my native language (Italian) and only add the translation of Google Translator so that it can be clear what really meant for those who can translate.
I do not understand what the problem is, I swear, not out of malice,
I follow a lot of time on your forum, and is a constant reference for the work on the Marvel universe.
As I wrote in the post that has been blocked and whose links are removed
I AM NOT THE AUTHOR OF CHARACTERS,
I AM NOT THE AUTHOR OF GRAPHICS,
I AM NOT THE AUTHOR OF SCREENPACK
I just wanted to assemble a game with some features,
I picked up the characters and stages for the web, where freely downloadable, plus everything you need (music and screenpack) and I put together a collection of DC characters.
The recolour Zod even seemed to me to have seen him here at MMV, but I do not remember any scandal at the time.
Each character / part of the game belongs to legettimo author,
I share this work (which you can feel the references to each of these, where present)
to focus attention on a small job (project) to do together to assemble more effectively just a DC game characters.
They can not, and I do not have time to realize characters / stage and everything else, but
I wanted to spend a bit of time to accomplish something (according to my strength, knowledge and skills) with what I found.
I have often repeated that I do not arrogavo no rights except to the lost time to select and adjust some of the collection setting.
I'm sorry you susciettibilità of the authors is so high,
already on InfinityMugen had made fun of me (even though I had explained my intent right from the start), here on MMV seemed to see a little more understanding, obviously I was wrong.
I feel I have not harmed anyone, nor had anything stolen the work of others, so do not feel I have to make excuses, I still want to say I'm sorry for the misunderstanding and the "noise" caused.
SPANISH - by Google Translator
Debido a que son responsables de la publicación de este post (al menos por lo que entiendo) decidí responder
Dejé que mis palabras en mi lengua materna (italiano) y sólo añadir la traducción de Google Traductor de modo que pueda ser claro lo que realmente significa para las que se puede traducir.
No entiendo cuál es el problema, lo juro, no por malicia,
Sigo un montón de tiempo en su foro, y es una referencia constante para el trabajo en el universo Marvel.
Como escribí en el post que ha sido bloqueado y cuyos enlaces se eliminan
NO SOY EL AUTOR DE CARACTERES,
Yo no soy el autor de los gráficos,
Yo no soy el autor de screenpack
Sólo quería montar un juego con algunas características,
Recogí los personajes y etapas de la web, donde pueden descargarse libremente, además de todo lo necesario (música y screenpack) y que arme una colección de personajes de DC.
El recolour Zod incluso parecía que yo le he visto aquí en MMV, pero no recuerdo ningún escándalo en el momento.
Cada personaje / parte del juego pertenece a legettimo autor,
Comparto este trabajo (que se puede sentir las referencias a cada uno de éstos, cuando están presentes)
centrar la atención en un pequeño trabajo (proyecto) para hacer juntos para montar de manera más eficaz a sólo los personajes del juego DC.
Ellos no pueden, y no tengo tiempo para darse cuenta de caracteres / escenario y todo lo demás, pero
Quería pasar un poco de tiempo para lograr algo (según mis fuerzas, conocimientos y habilidades), con lo que encontré.
He repetido muchas veces que no arrogavo ningún derecho, excepto que el tiempo perdido para seleccionar y ajustar algunas de la configuración de la recopilación.
Siento que susciettibilità de los autores es tan alto,
Ya en InfinityMugen habían burlado de mí (aunque me había explicado mi intención desde el principio), aquí en MMV pareció ver un poco más de comprensión, es obvio que estaba equivocado.
Siento que no he hecho daño a nadie, ni había nada robado el trabajo de los demás, así que no siento que tengo que poner excusas, todavía quiero decir que lo siento por el malentendido y el "ruido" causado.
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|Subject: Re: ANSWER FROM MMV October 6th 2016, 9:12 am|| |
Well, this is different than that "Harambe edit of Gorilla Grodd (Sep 16, 2016)" MUGEN case since "Harambe edit of Gorilla Grodd (Sep 16, 2016)" was just a forwarded MUGEN news....
What Christian Weston Chandler aka Dynatron said is true. I remember when some reckless MUGEN dude tried to remove some important readme files in some of my MUGEN releases and re-uploaded as a fresh new MUGEN news..........
I think the main concern is that, the MUGEN compilation author may not even know the origin of the MUGEN sources he/she/it has collected in the first place (like the MUGEN news reporter in the "Harambe edit of Gorilla Grodd (Sep 16, 2016)" MUGEN case). Of course, if anyone who already knows of the origin of the MUGEN sources (i.e. he/she/it already knows it is logansam's will to not let unauthorized MUGEN edits of his MUGEN works), and STILL chooses to do such unauthorized MUGEN edits, then it is certainly BAD...............
On the other hand, I agree that it is the forum admins'/mods' responsibility to check whether a MUGEN self/3rd party release is legit or not. Yet, there are no forum admins/mods who can work like 24/7 and can have all the knowledge of the release sources (i.e. volzzilla is currently politically busy and I am not good at Western comic books), and some don't even understand what is happening (i.e. some just come back from a break). So, for the forum users who spot something wrong about any releases, they are encouraged to report those to the forum admins/mods, and any available forum admins/mods can take their times checking the reported release topics.
Well, now I have an idea: how about we try to add a new forum section that is specially made for MMV team members and/or any MUGEN creators/authors who do not want their MUGEN works to be edited and re-released? And give them some forum permissions so that they can be their own forum section admins/mods? Or have someone make a list of MUGEN creators/authors who do not want their MUGEN works to be edited and re-released, and then make it a global forum rule for every forum member to follow -- "hey if you want to release something or post some news, then you need to take a look at the allowable MUGEN works list first. and if you spot any violating MUGEN release topics/replies then please report to MMV admins/mods immediately, thank you"?
Let's work together to improve the forum by more communications and co-operations, to try to avoid such problem........
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|Subject: Re: ANSWER FROM MMV October 6th 2016, 10:41 am|| |
With all respect to every one here , i am not happy to discourage new commers as Bolt Crank , all creators have all respect and credits with their honored creations , but better than being aggressive and attacking just instruct and guide them about the terms
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|Subject: Re: ANSWER FROM MMV October 6th 2016, 11:44 am|| |
People can release anything they want to on the site, but if it has been ripped off from another author, or that author has an issue with it, they should contact admins to get that said content removed, NOT attack the site (as we can not police every single release 24/7)
any site will have the same issue, if this character was released there that would be the process
blaming a site for what the public releases, is just naive
and yes it might not be what you want to happen, and yes if you want to leave, go for it
but all this has done is cause unneeded and unnecessary drama, for no reason
topic will be locked
please contact admin to sort out what needs to be done, before mouthing off publically ragging on the site
for an issue you have with an individual, not a member