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PostSubject: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 24th 2014, 6:30 pm

The Grand Kai - WIP

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Still figuring out a base but I think it's a done deal If anyone could help me find a base for the legs I would really appreciate it.


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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 24th 2014, 6:30 pm

wooow awesome
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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 24th 2014, 6:36 pm

Yeah I'm real excited about this one. I'm leaning towards the very left one, 1st image, though I would like to use the last one, on the very right. However, I can't find the right legs to go with that one.
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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 24th 2014, 7:05 pm

why not use gen from sfa3 as base or martail masters base chars u got the right idead in mind i like base u have now great job. nearly every dbz chars is available but grand kia and bills
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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 24th 2014, 8:01 pm

I think I found the right bases!!!

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However, the legs are only found in 1 animation, there are literally no more rips.  Sad 

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I may be able to manipulate the legs to make new animations but it's going to be a very slow process. I hope I can one day find more rips, hopefully there are more rips, actually!!!  affraid
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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 25th 2014, 1:31 pm

@rc72076 wrote:
why not use gen from sfa3 as base or martail masters base chars u got the right idead in mind i like base u have now great job. nearly every dbz chars is available but grand kia and bills

I could make it easier and I did want to beef him up but then I was afraid of losing the character's personality design.

It's important it stays as close as possible to the real DBZ, otherwise the illusion will be lost when you try to make a fan fiction adaptation.

I just gotta have his body type, it really holds better to the series.

I think I found a way around the base issue by merging other bases to create the base I needed a base from.   

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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 26th 2014, 11:12 pm

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First animation, the walk.

Also found this rarely used theme that goes great with this. I have to make stages again.
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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 26th 2014, 11:50 pm

Ax u always surprise me with your selection of characters...
...what u made u wanna make him?
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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 27th 2014, 8:38 am

@OGSymbiote wrote:
Ax u always surprise me with your selection of characters...
...what u made u wanna make him?

Yeah I do. I know it's a little off focus from the main cast though I'm doing this for various reasons.

First reason is, the Z fighters are all ready being made by others (MFG) with excellent quality+size+style. So this means I should avoid doing versions of the same character appearances since the downloader all ready has the same thing from MFG. There would be no point in having the same kinds of characters getting made twice; making new creations should be different from the ones all ready available and by making something different from what is available will give a good reason to download this collection to; in addition.

Second reason is, the anime series had some interesting characters that never really got a true battle set up because of the story's turn of events. So having said that, this means this would be a great opportunity to explore new fights that never happened in the anime. I plan to do this by setting up an alternate storyline based on DBZ's dead trunks timeline version where he defeated the androids w/Goku but got killed by Cell when he returned to his own future. Based on this scene from the anime.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg6ZNO0Aw-s

I wrote about this in the Goku wip thread...

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Ok, some quick fan fiction,  Rolling Eyes yeah I know LOL

Well for a DBZ game, again I wanna do a small game. Keep in mind that the timelines are confusing.

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The story would go like this.

Trunks time machine doesn't visit Goku early and instead Goku kills frieza like it was suppose to happen in Trunk's original past, so he visits Goku privately in the mountain area where Goku lives. There he gives him the antidote and stresses for him to take it, he trust Goku less since he missed Frieza and never measured his opponent's strength to judge Goku's abilities. So goku takes the antidote.

Goku meets and chases Android 20 like in the alternate timeline and follows Dr.Gero into his base, except Trunks doesn't arrive late, he arrives early and sneaks in without Gero knowing he is in his base. Since Goku is just outside Gero's lab about to open the steel doors, Gero decides to activate android 16, an android with enough power to kill goku, the original last android model before the idea of Cell was conceived, and hence why android 17 and 18 were created in addition to cell's plan. Trunks sees Gero's remote in his hand and sees this as an opportunity to save his timeline, so he does exactly the same as 17 did in the other time line, he takes the remote, and kills Gero by decapitating him.

Trunks finds 17 and 18 and blows them up while inactive.

16 activated walks past trunks saying, "I am here to kill Goku". trunks caring more about his timeline ditches the z fighters and returns back to his timeline. There he destroys androids 17 and 18 with a modified remote by future bulma and later gets killed by cell when he decides to go back and help his friends from the past. cell steals his time machine, just like the anime.

Now back to dby timeline.

the z fighters...or y fighters :Pduke it out but 16 is stronger than everyone. Eventually Goku somehow beats him but 16 grabs Goku like he did cell in the other timeline and announces that "he will kill goku", Goku trying to save everyone nearby and the earth uses instant transmission and teleports to king kai's planet for android 16 to blow up. Goku dying in other world remains there but flys further away because of android 16's superior explosive (in comparison to Cell's energy explosion in alternate timeline) and falls off into H.F.I.L.

There Goku meets Bardock and has a fight there with him. After that Bardock explains that he predicted his coming here on account of his psychic powers. He reveals that he has been in H.F.I.L. for a long time and has constantly been fighting to survive there; the reason why Bardock was able to put up a good fight with Goku. Then Bardock reveals to Goku a possible future where Goku being dead is unable to save his friends on earth from Dr.Raichi's revenge. Goku determined to come back seeks King Kai's help and learns about the other world tournament. There Goku wins, determined to rescue earth from Raichi, and demands he be given the chance to go back to earth instead of receiving training from the grand kai.

The grand kai is insulted by this but he makes a deal with Goku, if he can beat him in a fight, he would grant goku his life back so he can rescue his friends from Raichi. The fight happens, Goku wins, he goes to earth, fights Raichi, and then wins. The End.



We've seen and played the same sagas over and over. This could be a great opportunity to explore a new story so we can experience new fights with fresh characters.

Third and final reason, I wanna make some of my favorite characters. Everybody likes the same stuff for the most part but I was weird when I saw the anime for the first time because I thought Android 16 was going to be the final battle with Goku. I grew up watching DragonBall and I remember little boy Goku about to fight Android 8 and I was disappointed because that fight never happened. So 16 was like the parallel version where I was finally gonna see Goku face a Super Android; unfortunately that never happened either, instead we got some mutated clone android vs Goku's son  Rolling Eyes 

Next I remember watching Bardock the father of goku and I just wanted to see more of him. His story was so short and cool. I always imagined, well he's dead and so was Goku, so yeah a fight might of happened? To bad it never did  No 

During the other world tournament, there was a draw victory between Goku and Pikkon, so we never saw Grand Kai teach a winner that could have been Goku, let alone see what Grand Kai could do in a fight. At the time many probably thought of him being like DragonBall's master roshi as Jackie Chun vs Little boy Goku in the world martial arts tournament on earth. Again, it would have been fun to see Goku Vs Grand Kai in some form. However, this never happened.  Neutral 

Raichi is just there as a grand finale and to tie the story's loose ends though I really like his back-story and character design from this japan only CD DBZ movie. It be interesting to see a ghost go up against Goku. Maybe Goku comes back too late to save his friends Question 





So anyway, that's why I am doing characters like Grand Kai from DBZ. Same reasons why I made Goku like Link for mugen (legend of zelda) differently. Just to give something new and different, fresh and exciting. Like a Star @ heaven
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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 28th 2014, 9:44 am

Wow, I love it ~
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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 28th 2014, 9:54 am

Amazing sprites, very good wip. Luck whit the project.

Asombrosos sprites, muy buen wip. Suerte con el proyecto!!!
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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 28th 2014, 4:47 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 28th 2014, 5:04 pm

Thanks fellas.

Okay finished turning and crouching.

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Jumping coming up next. Some of the bases for the other animations have all ready been set up. I think i have a good rhythm going. I hope I can do this one quickly. I have the urge to start more wips after I finish some of the basics here. It's great to be back!  Cool
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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 29th 2014, 5:35 am

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Just amazing !

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Raichi is just there as a grand finale and to tie the story's loose ends though I really like his back-story and character design from this japan only CD DBZ movie. It be interesting to see a ghost go up against Goku. Maybe Goku comes back too late to save his friends Question 

I agree, the most thing so great with mugen is to bring back to life some died character   

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PostSubject: Re: The Grand Kai - WIP   January 29th 2014, 11:46 am

I hope I can work on more after this.

I decided to add more frames in the previous animation. small difference.

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Also the jumping is finished

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