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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 10:21 am

I believe criticism on a work as feedback is good,but it should be said properly and not in a rude or condecending way. Also most peoples age is stated under there avatar and i personally think that should be taken into consideration heavily aswell ie: you tell a 12 year old there work is not ok and buggy as hell and most likely you will turn them away from mugen,but you could say the exact same thing to a 20 year old and most likely it will make them try harder to fix said issues. So i think you should weigh all the factors of the creator when giving feedback. I give honest feed back but try to say it nicely to the person and always state the issues of the work in a in my opinion form.
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 11:21 am

"Your char is a shit" "Your job is trash" This no is critic, its no hard, i'ts not nothing.
lahar say "axking is complete crap sometimes his sprites look nice but his coding is godawful."

http://mugenfreeforall.com/index.php?/topic/11937-hulk-captain-america-released-by-ax-4313/

This is a good critic? Is false, the Hulk and Captain America of Ax are fun, have new stand, new attacks ... They have potential, they are a good job. The ways of these clowns (lahar and metamutant) are not correct.

Cravd say: "nice, simple and basic but excellent if hulk, new moves, move forward and back and if only this great posture." Do you notice the difference?

Personally I prefer not to post anything in multiverse to put up with clowns like these. Do not understand how there are people who can defend.

My opinion is have to bannear lahar and metamutant . People like them are useless. Moderators, canceled their accounts please


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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 2:08 pm

scratch Criticism is always a matter of discussion. Could be useful most times when is followed by a good explanation, giving some details, noticing bugs and using common sense. When is like that most of people accept those comments and frequently thanks them. :suspect: Yup, of course, there are still a few that even with good words can't accept any kind of criticism, but as I said are a few.

Very Mad But criticism is pretty useless when is merely a way to bother people who dislikes somebody due to personal reasons or are simple messages saying I dislike or I hate that just without any meaningful apport. That kind of comments should be warned in my opinion, but I won't say names, everyone is responsible of their comments and know pretty well when they did wrong. Administrators here are the ones who have to punish them, not me.

Rolling Eyes But is true that there is a huge variability in aging here, so, we must show more respect eachother to give a good example to the younger generations of creators. I'm the first in no harshing people ever and I always be kind with people who deserve it. I'll always try to help, cause I remember when I started in this world and luckily I knew some people who kindly help me to improve my edits and my skills, and I will never forget that.

At last, we are all in the mugen world just for fun and entertainment. So, be cool. Is that so difficult? Very Happy

Amen (hahahahaha tongue )




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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 2:25 pm

I think we can all learn feedback from vollzilla. His comments are always restrained and justified. There is no sense in vain to praise a person or humiliate him. In the world of Mugen many lay people who need help and support. Seeing that their creations are mixed with shit, they can simply leave the Mugen. It does not help.
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 2:34 pm

@animaraz wrote:
The ways of these clowns (lahar and metamutant) are not correct.

Personally I prefer not to post anything in multiverse to put up with clowns like these.

My opinion is have to bannear lahar and metamutant . People like them are useless. Moderators, canceled their accounts

Animaraz you are the only one throwing out personal insults, yet you want others banned. That's the very definition of a hypocrite.
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 3:13 pm

Well, I've been a victim, I'm still not a great creator mugen, the more I try so hard, in my first edits I heard something very unpleasant, I could stop the mugen for being embarrassing, but I have a problem with the persistence I do not give up easily.

I think feedback and offense are very different things, should not be allowed to abuse anyone anywhere Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 3:15 pm

Not necessarily mm. The saying "Try as I would like to be treated" then I would understand if you make offensive comments is because you like to receive offensive comments.

My freedom of expression ends where the rights of others star.

Either way the forum is not worth this kind of fight, I promise to watch more my language and form of expression and hoping that others will follow suit.

No necesariamente mm. Dice el dicho "Trata como te gustaria ser tratado" entonces yo entiendo que si tu haces comentarios ofensivos es porque te gusta recibir comentarios ofensivos.

Mi libertad de expresion termina donde empieza los derechos a los demás.

De cualquier manera el foro no merece este tipo de peleas, prometo vigilar mas mi lenguaje y forma de expresion esperando que otras personas sigan el mismo ejemplo.
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 4:04 pm

@Angelus_Silverhead wrote:
I think we can all learn feedback from vollzilla. His comments are always restrained and justified. There is no sense in vain to praise a person or humiliate him. In the world of Mugen many lay people who need help and support. Seeing that their creations are mixed with shit, they can simply leave the Mugen. It does not help.

Indeed. Vol is a good mirror to look at. Im in this forum because of him and always gave me support. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 4:48 pm

My two cents:

Feedback needs to be honest, and we all are grown up so nobody needs to receive feedbacks sugar coated.

Sure, when someone says "Its a shit" its not a feedback. But "Nice char, Downloading now, OMFG its *insert your wanted char name*" aren't feedback either.

There are some common excuses. If you use any of those, you need to rethink about your "mugen carreer":

- Its a beta
- Mugen is a hobby
- if you don't like, don't download it.
- Its my style (when you don't have required sprites)
- Don't make public feedback, give it by PM.

If you use any of those above, go home, you are drunk.
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 5:12 pm

Honesty is not synonymous with vulgarity. There are correct ways of saying things. You can be tough and give you an opinion valuable or insulting just for the pleasure of insulting. To me it's not an excuse, the mugen is a hobby, it's sad that for some mugen become your life and feel a god can judge so viciously selfless efforts of others.
How is it possible that good creators are forgotten once-rookies?

Many no need "mugen carreer", many have real life (job, girlfriend, school, sports)

honestidad no es sinonimo de vulgaridad. Hay maneras correctas de decir las cosas. Puedes ser duro y aportar una opinion valiosa o puedes insultar solo por el placer de insultar. Para mi no es un pretexto, el mugen es un hobby, es triste que para algunos el mugen se convierta en su vida y se sientan un dios capaz de juzgar con tanta saña los esfuerzos desinteresados de otros.
¿Como es posible que creadores buenos ya hallan olvidado que alguna vez fueron novatos?

Muchos no necesitan "una carrera en el mugen" tienen una vida real
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PostSubject: Re: Feedback, Comments, & Criticism   May 17th 2013, 5:37 pm

Animarez, we have a forum rule about bringing other forum drama to this place. Please do not be asked about that again.

Locking this topic because there are numerous topics that are about to get a reminder about our #1 rule, respect at all times.
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